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 03-31-2020, 08:04 PM 

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**Flush or recessed screen?**

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I am aware of the pros and cons of flush and recessed screen.

**Flush:**

1.Looks better

2\. No dust getting trapped at the sides

**Recessed:**

1\. More clarity

2\. Easier to put fingers on bezel without fingers slipping off and touching the screen

3\. Lesser light reflection

On the other hand, take a Kobo Forma, for example. It has a flush screen. If the touchscreen is not used for page turn, and buttons are used instead, the screen will not have too many smudges.  
The fingers can also be rested on the strip where the buttons are located so they will not slip and touch the screen accidentally.  
That solves 1 of the problem of flush screen.

I am wondering about the clarity of a flush screen compared to a recessed screen. Can the lack of clarity be solved by increasing the weight of the font?

Also, how much better is the lighting on a flush screen than a recessed one? In what way is it better? Is it brighter, or just more even?

Which of the two screens do you prefer and why? Do they make a big difference?

Thanks!

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I didn't vote because I don't have a preference either way. My Kindles have flush screens, my Nook and my Libra have recessed screens. The screens are pretty similar on all of them (with the exception of the Voyage, which has a slightly sharper and whiter screen than my other readers).

I wouldn't say there's really any difference in screen quality of modern eink readers. They're all equally good.

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I didn't vote since there is not a "I don't care" option. I've used readers with both recessed and flush screens and I've don't have a preference for either. Given the same technology for the touch, I haven't seen any real difference in brightness or sharpness. The older IR touch screens had fewer layers so, in theory, could be sharper for the same screen resolution but I needed a loupe to see any differences.

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I prefer and will only purchase a recessed screen. I like the having the bezel to hold the reader by, for me it makes it much more comfortable for long reading periods. I also think a recessed screen looks better.

But I also avoid capacitive touch ereaders, so right there flush is out for me. I use my readers outdoors in cold weather, so being able to use it with all thickness of gloves is a must (and no, I'm not about to buy 4 pairs of special gloves or ruin my warm gloves by sewing in the metallic thread in the finger tips).

I also keep my readers in a cover always and don't eat over them using them as a crumb tray, so I've never had a problem with having to clean dust or particles out from under the bezel.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by **Sirtel** 

I didn't vote because I don't have a preference either way. My Kindles have flush screens, my Nook and my Libra have recessed screens. The screens are pretty similar on all of them (with the exception of the Voyage, which has a slightly sharper and whiter screen than my other readers).

I wouldn't say there's really any difference in screen quality of modern eink readers. They're all equally good.

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Originally Posted by **DNSB** 

I didn't vote since there is not a "I don't care" option. I've used readers with both recessed and flush screens and I've don't have a preference for either. Given the same technology for the touch, I haven't seen any real difference in brightness or sharpness. The older IR touch screens had fewer layers so, in theory, could be sharper for the same screen resolution but I needed a loupe to see any differences.

So there is no particular difference between the two? Lighting and smudges equal amount? Hands won't slip off that easily?

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**Flush:**

2\. Better lighting

That is not a feature of a flush screen. I have a Kobo Aura H2O and i has a recessed screen. The lighting is very even and very good. So I suggest editing your post and removing number 2 from the Flush section. That doesn't belong in either section.

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**Recessed:**

1\. Lesser fingerprint smudges

Again, not so. Both should be about the same. So that needs to go as well.

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I didn't vote because it depends HOW the recessed or flush screen is implemented.

**Lighting:** not a factor, depends on "light pipe" design. Recessed isn't a problem with ambient light shadow unless there is no margin. The active screen might not be part of a flush surface.  
**Fingerprints**: not a factor, depends on surface type and if there are also buttons.  
**Dust:** depends on the design of the recessed screen, certainly an issue on models were the front bezel is held on by double sided tape, but it doesn't need to be.

Screen surface finish, resolution, contrast, size and overall ergonomics are more important than surface vs recessed.

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I chose recessed, but only because in an ideal world, I'd prefer to have the screen without anything in front of it.

But in practice, my ereader has a flush screen.

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I don't really mind the dust at the sides. The only two things I'm wondering about now is the clarity and whether the fingers will slip onto the screen. How much better is the clarity on recessed screen than flush? Does increasing the weight of the font solve the problem? If my fingers are resting on the bezel, do they touch the screen accidentally and flip a page?

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Indeed, if I HAD to choose, I'd choose recessed. Flush actually is really marketing and makes the screen more expensive to mount and more easily damaged.  
I've many gadgets, some are flush (10" tablet is largest, 7" tablet, phone 6" screen, Binatone eReaders) and some are recessed (Laptop, Kindle DXG, Keyboard, PW3, Kobos, Nook, Sony, Palm)

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Originally Posted by **Quoth** 

I didn't vote because it depends HOW the recessed or flush screen is implemented.

**Lighting:** not a factor, depends on "light pipe" design. Recessed isn't a problem with ambient light shadow unless there is no margin. The active screen might not be part of a flush surface.  
**Fingerprints**: not a factor, depends on surface type and if there are also buttons.  
**Dust:** depends on the design of the recessed screen, certainly an issue on models were the front bezel is held on by double sided tape, but it doesn't need to be.

Screen surface finish, resolution, contrast, size and overall ergonomics are more important than surface vs recessed.

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Indeed, if I HAD to choose, I'd choose recessed. Flush actually is really marketing and makes the screen more expensive to mount and more easily damaged.  
I've many gadgets, some are flush (10" tablet is largest, 7" tablet, phone 6" screen, Binatone eReaders) and some are recessed (Laptop, Kindle DXG, Keyboard, PW3, Kobos, Nook, Sony, Palm)

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Recessed WITH BUTTONS for page turning  
Reduced damage, grubby fingers have a dedicated place and not encroach onto the viewing area.

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Originally Posted by **HolyAura** 

I don't really mind the dust at the sides. The only two things I'm wondering about now is the clarity and whether the fingers will slip onto the screen. How much better is the clarity on recessed screen than flush? Does increasing the weight of the font solve the problem? If my fingers are resting on the bezel, do they touch the screen accidentally and flip a page?

Thanks for all your inputs!

No real differences in clarity. Note that most modern readers with recessed screens use the same capacitive touch the flush-screen readers use, so the screens are basically the same. IR touch isn't popular anymore (all my 6 ereaders, Kindles, Nook, Kobo, use capacitive touch, none of them uses IR. They're all relatively recent models, except for the Voyage).

As to slipping fingers, sorry, no idea. All my ereaders have buttons and I use those, so no accidental slipping.

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I didn't vote since there is not a "I don't care" option. I've used readers with both recessed and flush screens and I've don't have a preference for either. Given the same technology for the touch, I haven't seen any real difference in brightness or sharpness. The older IR touch screens had fewer layers so, in theory, could be sharper for the same screen resolution but I needed a loupe to see any differences.

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I haven't had a flush screen ereader yet, but I would like one. Wiping the screen to remove dust and finger grease (even with page turn buttons I still touch the screen often for the menus) is a daily ritual. Cleaning a flush screen would go that little bit quicker and better and for me that would be worth it considering the amount of times I'm doing it.

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